Next Generation Nissan Silvia/240SX Concept Vehicle

[HyperFX]

[Turbowned]

OLD NEWS. This was years ago.

[Goose]

It even says '2010' in the pic file names...

[HyperFX]

It wasnt meant to be a "Breaking News" flash. Just like the FT86 Concept which came out in 2007, its just something to give a comparison to the recent new vehicles.

[Genki]

Wish I could find the old concept pics because it looked a lot better. This one looks like a stretched Murano from the front and I'm a huge Nissan fan

[Cal]

Wish I could find the old concept pics because it looked a lot better. This one looks like a stretched Murano from the front and I'm a huge Nissan fan

You mean this one?

[Genki]

You mean this one?

It's been a while but I dont think so. Streched choped slammed G37 on 350z base model wheels with a nicer offset above? i think the concept I had seen was well before the G37 influence kicked in but Im at work and cant do a whole lot. Nice though.

[Cal]

The G37 photoshop is the only one I know of. Except that ugly ass yellow one.

Edit: These are the only ones I found.



Sigh, if Nissan could make something like the Genesis but make it weigh something like the BRZ I'd be in heaven.

[San Diego Kouki]

Man that concept with the black background looks really good and it still looks like an S chassis. I wish Manufacturers made affordable and practical cars, glad the FRS is dropping in a few months.

[mankarn86]

Interesting how much of a performance difference between the z and the skyline/G37 despite the comparable price tag. Almost as much performance in the z as the R35!

[Genki]

I have a feeling if they revive the S-chassis, the current Silvia/240sx/200sx fans will be dissapointed. I hope they take a page from the Toyscibaru book and lean more toward light weight with a reasonable price tag but looking at their current line up It may not happen due to the impact it could cause on the 370.

[Cal]

I have a feeling if they revive the S-chassis, the current Silvia/240sx/200sx fans will be dissapointed. I hope they take a page from the Toyscibaru book and lean more toward light weight with a reasonable price tag but looking at their current line up It may not happen due to the impact it could cause on the 370.

I think current S-chassis fans will be happy if they can manage to make light, rwd, turbo, good nismo options that aren't stupid expensive(nismo 1.5 way dealership install) and keep it under 25k.

I would be in the dealership tomorrow if I could have a turbo 4cylinder 220-250hp crank, HLSD, HID's, good sound deadening (S14 road noise ftl)

[San Diego Kouki]

Agreed, I've done a lot to my s14 to make it look modern and im toying with the idea of buying an frs because nissan flaked on the silvia concept. I would have saved up enough by now.

[modifiedMR]

The silvia was a cool car because of it's pricetag and performance, but isn't something crazy badass. This frs has higher potential due to the lower cog (lower than a cayman!) and weight distribution from using the boxer engine set back and lower. The dual injection also is trick, so if the chassis is very rigid and the suspension works great, adding power will make this car a beast!

[Cal]

The silvia was a cool car because of it's pricetag and performance, but isn't something crazy badass. This frs has higher potential due to the fact that it is over 17 years younger than the S14 S-chassis design!

Fixed.

I dream of a world with a new Silvia/240sx RX-7 and boosted BRZ/GT86/FR-S.

[modifiedMR]

Fixed.

I dream of a world with a new Silvia/240sx RX-7 and boosted BRZ/GT86/FR-S.

Even a reworked silvia wouldn't be as sweet as a turbo brz due to the boxer design, unless the front was really long and the engine/tranny pushed under the dash. Even the rx-7 doesn't have as good of a chassis.

Case and point:
rx-7 specs
252 hp, 217 tq
Wheelbase 95.5 in (2,426 mm)
Length 168.5 in (4,280 mm)
Width 68.9 in (1,750 mm)
Height 48.4 in (1,229 mm)
Curb weight 1,282 kilograms (2,830 lb)
drag coefficient .33
weight distribution 50:50

Scion FRS
200 hp, 151 tq
wheelbase 101.2"
length 167"
width 69.9"
height 50.6"
curb weight 2689 lbs
drag coefficient .27
weight distribution 47:53

If you look at the specs, the mazda rx-7 wins in power (, but not if the frs/brz gets a 2.0 from the STI) and in weight distribution. Those can both be addressed much easier than what it is not winning in, which is the longer wheelbase (easier to get out of spin/slide and to hold on limit), wider (wider is better!), weight (one HUGE thing for any sports car) and drag (which affects all things gaining speed). A FRS with more power and a lightened front would easily make even embarrass an rx-7 in all ways. Try lengthening the wheel base or dropping 140 lbs. See the potential here? Any inline 4 will have trouble getting these low cog. I want to see what kind of slalom and road holding g's the frs will get (remember they put prius tires on it though! lol).

[ej25ti]

gosh... as if i didnt want an FD enough!

[San Diego Kouki]

Even a reworked silvia wouldn't be as sweet as a turbo brz due to the boxer design, unless the front was really long and the engine/tranny pushed under the dash. Even the rx-7 doesn't have as good of a chassis.

Case and point:
rx-7 specs
252 hp, 217 tq
Wheelbase 95.5 in (2,426 mm)
Length 168.5 in (4,280 mm)
Width 68.9 in (1,750 mm)
Height 48.4 in (1,229 mm)
Curb weight 1,282 kilograms (2,830 lb)
drag coefficient .33
weight distribution 50:50

Scion FRS
200 hp, 151 tq
wheelbase 101.2"
length 167"
width 69.9"
height 50.6"
curb weight 2689 lbs
drag coefficient .27
weight distribution 47:53

If you look at the specs, the mazda rx-7 wins in power (, but not if the frs/brz gets a 2.0 from the STI) and in weight distribution. Those can both be addressed much easier than what it is not winning in, which is the longer wheelbase (easier to get out of spin/slide and to hold on limit), wider (wider is better!), weight (one HUGE thing for any sports car) and drag (which affects all things gaining speed). A FRS with more power and a lightened front would easily make even embarrass an rx-7 in all ways. Try lengthening the wheel base or dropping 140 lbs. See the potential here? Any inline 4 will have trouble getting these low cog. I want to see what kind of slalom and road holding g's the frs will get (remember they put prius tires on it though! lol).

I think a comparison to an s2k would be better, you're kinda talking about Rx7's as if all you will find is stock RX7's. And the RX7 with a 52HP advantage and a better HP to torque ratio will leave a tuner with a lot of work to do, which in the end might mess up the actual advantages of the balance ideal in an FRS.Good luck finding a turbo or supercharger that makes that narrows that gap and is street legal with hippies going greener every day. And 140 difference is not a big deal when you have the hp and torque to back it up. The center of gravity is important but anybody can drop their car and purchase aggressive wheels. Don't mean insult it's just not a fair prediction.

[Cal]

Even a reworked silvia wouldn't be as sweet as a turbo brz due to the boxer design, unless the front was really long and the engine/tranny pushed under the dash. Even the rx-7 doesn't have as good of a chassis.

Case and point:
rx-7 specs
252 hp, 217 tq
Wheelbase 95.5 in (2,426 mm)
Length 168.5 in (4,280 mm)
Width 68.9 in (1,750 mm)
Height 48.4 in (1,229 mm)
Curb weight 1,282 kilograms (2,830 lb)
drag coefficient .33
weight distribution 50:50

Scion FRS
200 hp, 151 tq
wheelbase 101.2"
length 167"
width 69.9"
height 50.6"
curb weight 2689 lbs
drag coefficient .27
weight distribution 47:53

240SX S14
155HP 160TQ
Wheelbase 99.4 in
Length 177.1 in
Width 68.0 in
Height 50.7 in
Curb weight 2,762.4 lb
drag coefficient .32
Weight Distribution 50:50

Silvia S15
250HP 202TQ
Wheelbase 99.4 in
Length 175 in
Width 66.7 in
Height 50.6 in
Curb weight 2734 lb

The S14/15 are not the far off from the BRZ/GT86/FRS in terms of those specs and again that is a 17 year old design. Not to mention the S15 achieved 250HP and still only had a curb weight of 2734. I know with today's standard that would be more difficult, but personally don't think turbo bits would add that much weight. Turbo +SMIC, piping what 75LBS? 100lb?

It could be the fan boy in me talking but I am fully confident Nissan could produce a car to beat the BRZ and still make it turbo and cheap.

[San Diego Kouki]

I agree Cal, I admire toyota for doing this first. Hopefully it will set a trend with manufacturers. My FRS will be a spirited Daily driver and my s14 will get an engine swap and become a track whore.

[modifiedMR]

I think a comparison to an s2k would be better, you're kinda talking about Rx7's as if all you will find is stock RX7's. And the RX7 with a 52HP advantage and a better HP to torque ratio will leave a tuner with a lot of work to do, which in the end might mess up the actual advantages of the balance ideal in an FRS.Good luck finding a turbo or supercharger that makes that narrows that gap and is street legal with hippies going greener every day. And 140 difference is not a big deal when you have the hp and torque to back it up. The center of gravity is important but anybody can drop their car and purchase aggressive wheels. Don't mean insult it's just not a fair prediction.

The brz/frs has 4.9" of ground clearance stock. It can go lower too. We all know there has to be a turbo model come out sometime, which will easily eclipse the fd in power and power to weight. They are just holding back info so all of us buy the NA and then sucker punch us by dropping the turbo two years later. Means people will then trade up, while giving the stealerships a load of used brz/frs to sell because there won't be enough new ones at 5,000/yr production. It's a twisted marketing plan.

If the brz/frs drops a turbo model, it will be faster and better handling than the Supra. I would love them to do a Supra off the GT 86 with 300 hp, widened stance, etc. The next STI supposedly will have 330 hp!

[Calum]

I love the idea, but it just looks too much like a Tiburon from the back.

[ej25ti]

^^^ hahahahahahz

[modifiedMR]

^^^ hahahahahahz

When I saw it, that's what I thought. Last gen Hyundai with murano front.

[Cal]

^Yea that concept sucks asshole.

Nissan Y U No Make Car?!!