STi and TRD add on

[silentheart]

Dear members,

I think this is actually a great time for tinkering of this car. I am planing to get a STi next year then get some of the TRD after market parts to add on. The nice thing is, no matter which car you buy, you can get the aftermarket part from other car and put on without too much mod.

I like it. What do you think?

[7thgear]

i think people underestimate OEM setups

but i it will be nice to have a solid aftermarket available for the car. (although there are only a few components that i can think of that could possibly make this car better)

[Turbowned]

i think people underestimate OEM setups

but i it will be nice to have a solid aftermarket available for the car. (although there are only a few components that i can think of that could possibly make this car better)

Look at the S2000 and NSX. Widely regarded as sublime performers. People still mod the bejeesus out of them. It is possible to improve on perfection. Besides, it supports Toyota and Scion's "Kaizen" philosophy of continuous improvement.

[7thgear]

Look at the S2000 and NSX. Widely regarded as sublime performers. People still mod the bejeesus out of them. It is possible to improve on perfection. Besides, it supports Toyota and Scion's "Kaizen" philosophy of continuous improvement.

i'm just saying.. you can mod a lotus elise if you wanted to..

It's just that the car isn't even out yet and people want upgrades already, lol. I think a 200 rwhp, 2600 chassis like the FT86 is the biggest "upgrade" the tuner/racer crowd has seen since the STi made it's appearance in North America.

just by buying this car you'll have an edge at your local autocross/trackday.

[silentheart]

I think the options for the tinkers will increase as time goes by. But right now, we can easily get s strip down Scion ( i hope no one name their kid Scion) then dress it up with either TRD or STi part and they are interchangeable. If I like the FT86 steering wheel better, I can just go to to Scion (hope they don't put the Scion in the air bag cover) and order one. May be the dash too. It is all about the combo.

One thing I am wondering, I remember I saw one of the JDM head unit picture display the driving stats. The one in Subie and Scion looks different than that one. I hope the standard GPS unit in Subie also have those goodies.

[Genki]

Im buying this car because i want to modify it. If I wanted a car thats bad-ass enough stock I'd go for a new 5.0 but to me half the fun is making it unique and your own creation.

[Cal]

Im buying this car because i want to modify it. If I wanted a car thats bad-ass enough stock I'd go for a new 5.0 but to me half the fun is making it unique and your own creation.

Yup. The BRZ is the new 240sx.

[subiefan]

So far every review says the same thing; it needs more power. Can't wait for a turbo or supercharger option - whatever form that may take. C'mon Subaru, ya gotta listen to us!

[TRDGT86]

Full TRD gear is the best choice

[ProZach626]

I'm not slapping a turbo on a new car... I'm kind of over modding cars, aside from small things. I don't think my Chief would want me to park a riced out car in our station lot...

[modifiedMR]

Yup. The BRZ is the new 240sx.

Exactly, a new POS! The silvia was nice, the 240sx had a weak mini truck engine in it

[Turbowned]

Exactly, a new POS! The silvia was nice, the 240sx had a weak mini truck engine in it

A mini truck engine in it that responds extremely well to turbocharging...

*fixed*

[Tad]

Exactly, a new POS! The silvia was nice, the 240sx had a weak mini truck engine in it

A mini truck engine in it that responds extremely well to turbocharging...

*fixed*

Not to mention other engines that fit very well in there....I really do miss my RB power S14


It would be nice to know if an ej257 would bolt to the BRZ/FRS/FT86 tranny....Imagine a H6 setup or just swapping a turbo EJ series....for those who don't know the H6 (EZ series) subaru engines bolted up to the tranny in cars that came with H4 (EJ series) engines...they even use ej20 pistons & rods

[Genki]

Not to mention other engines that fit very well in there....I really do miss my RB power S14


It would be nice to know if an ej257 would bolt to the BRZ/FRS/FT86 tranny....Imagine a H6 setup or just swapping a turbo EJ series....for those who don't know the H6 (EZ series) subaru engines bolted up to the tranny in cars that came with H4 (EJ series) engines...they even use ej20 pistons & rods

What??!!??!!

[modifiedMR]

Not to mention other engines that fit very well in there....I really do miss my RB power S14


It would be nice to know if an ej257 would bolt to the BRZ/FRS/FT86 tranny....Imagine a H6 setup or just swapping a turbo EJ series....for those who don't know the H6 (EZ series) subaru engines bolted up to the tranny in cars that came with H4 (EJ series) engines...they even use ej20 pistons & rods

There are already rumors/details revealed that indicate the FA should be EJ swappable as all the mounts and such are the same.

I would still rather just have them put in lower compression pistons (9.5:1 or so) and a turbo stock. Who has the money to buy a new car and then immediately pull the motor, put in an EJ and then get the electronics sorted? Sounds like a foolish proposition to me. Now when they are 5-10 years old and you can get one cheap, possibly with a blown engine, then that's different. I'm just not sure why they can set the dang car up with a turbo model???? Makes me want to slap someone!

[San Diego Kouki]

It makes me want to slap somebody also, I want a good handling car. But god forbid the Honda crowds will look at whatever I drive with their heads held high... I'm so tired of my stock 240

[Cal]

It makes me want to slap somebody also, I want a good handling car. But god forbid the Honda crowds will look at whatever I drive with their heads held high... I'm so tired of my stock 240

[Tad]

There are already rumors/details revealed that indicate the FA should be EJ swappable as all the mounts and such are the same.

I would still rather just have them put in lower compression pistons (9.5:1 or so) and a turbo stock. Who has the money to buy a new car and then immediately pull the motor, put in an EJ and then get the electronics sorted? Sounds like a foolish proposition to me. Now when they are 5-10 years old and you can get one cheap, possibly with a blown engine, then that's different. I'm just not sure why they can set the dang car up with a turbo model???? Makes me want to slap someone!

I really do hope they have the same foot print, however, I would still like STI to at minimum is to lower the compression (better internals) & put a turbo in there....even if its a rear mount setup. What I would really like them to do is put a 2.5L turbo setup in there like they did with the impreza.

[Turbowned]

It would be awesome if one had enough disposable income to buy a BRZ and swap a fresh STi motor in. Reminds me of when Mallett Cars stuffed a 400hp LS2 V8 in a Pontiac Solstice immediately after it hit showroom floors

[modifiedMR]

It would be awesome if one had enough disposable income to buy a BRZ and swap a fresh STi motor in. Reminds me of when Mallett Cars stuffed a 400hp LS2 V8 in a Pontiac Solstice immediately after it hit showroom floors

No need in this car to do a v8 or v6 for that matter. A happy revving 4 with a turbo will do. The use of both direct and port injection will make turbo'ing that much better. A solstice setup can make gobs of power with their 4's!

[RGT]

Full TRD gear is the best choice

Just wait till COBB tuning gets a hold of one....

[Genki]

Just wait till COBB tuning gets a hold of one....

Has Cobb done anything impressive on a NA engine before?

[RGT]

I have a 2003 celica that TRD really had nothing for. If TRD comes out with a s/c upgrade that's a pretty hefty add on but TRD isn't as experienced with these engines as Cobb is. If I had my druthers I'd take a Cobb turbo kit over a TRD s/c upgrade.

[modifiedMR]

I have a 2003 celica that TRD really had nothing for. If TRD comes out with a s/c upgrade that's a pretty hefty add on but TRD isn't as experienced with these engines as Cobb is. If I had my druthers I'd take a Cobb turbo kit over a TRD s/c upgrade.

There was a supercharger kit for the 1zz celica's, but you had to buy a new hood to fit it.

[RGT]

Yeah I know. The worst part was the Toyota salesman telling me that the supercharger upgrade was available for my car. I bought the car anticipating I would add the s/c but found out that the hood clearance issue made it so that the TRD upgrade wasn't available. Typical crap dealing with Toyota dealerships.

12 months later I visited a subie dealership with the plan to buy a WRX. That was in 2003 and the STI still wasn't out yet. Unfortunately I was upside down on my loan so it wasnt possible to make the trade. Instead I waited four years to save up for an STI which I bought in 2007.

Honestly I will never buy anything ever again from a Toyota dealership. Their sales people and maintenance people are a bunch of crooks - and it wasn't just one dealership - there are several dealerships where I live and I would take my car to different ones after each would rip me off. My experience with Subaru was night and day difference.

But back to the topic, this car is a subie with Toyota skin. Why would TRD be the better aftermarket for engine and performance?

[Turbowned]

TRD has years of experience developing performance parts for rear-wheel-drive cars, but beyond that I can't imagine there being much of a difference. TRD has been known to offer forced induction options, big brake kits, and engine components in the past (cams, valvetrain) and I don't recall STi ever offering such parts. Either way I'm sure both companies will offer springs, struts, sway bars, wheels, intake/exhaust upgrades and some aero bits. I have friends at the local Toyota and Subaru dealerships, so I should be able to get a break on parts either way

[RGT]

TRD has years of experience developing performance parts for rear-wheel-drive cars, but beyond that I can't imagine there being much of a difference. TRD has been known to offer forced induction options, big brake kits, and engine components in the past (cams, valvetrain) and I don't recall STi ever offering such parts. Either way I'm sure both companies will offer springs, struts, sway bars, wheels, intake/exhaust upgrades and some aero bits. I have friends at the local Toyota and Subaru dealerships, so I should be able to get a break on parts either way

How many boxer engines are in Toyota cars? Not trying to be a pain. Also note that I am not saying STI will have a turbo option I am saying that COBB may be the aftermarket of choice. I would agree that suspension bits may be an option from TRD but again Subaru really has been the one to develop the handling characteristics of the car not so much Toyota. I am not being biased, I installed some TRD suspension mods for my celica myself and love them because they offered the best balance for daily driving and performance. On the other hand throw some STI pinks on your subie and you are getting full on performance and no comfort. It will depend on what you want but if you want hardcore I'd look more towards the subie aftermarket as I think TRD is softer - no pun intended.

[RGT]

Honestly if you guys haven't heard of Cobb or know what those guys do I'd go to their website and take a peek. TRD is going to offer watered down upgrades for the car and while COBB is not technically Subaru all the subie dealerships I have been to allow the COBB upgrades without voiding your warranty. They seem to have a symbiotic relationship. In fact when the 07 STI came out it was subject to the new emission laws passed at that time which caused a lot of issues with throttle and boost spikes. COBB offered a better map for the stock car than even Subaru could. I know because I had the car reflashed at the subie dealership and still wasn't happy. COBB was a win win.

[Cal]

I plan to look to GReeddy HKS for engine upgrades fortune auto for coils, Suspension Techniques for sway bars, Stop Tech or project mu for brakes.

[corry29]

Are you guys talking about mixing and matching TRD and STI optional stuff between the cars? I want to get that CF roof from the STI BRZ for the FRS haha!