Subaru RWD, good or bad move?
Was wondering what everyone though about Subaru potentially offering a RWD model into their current AWD lineup that they worked long and hard to build. Does this damage their future brand or does it add a new dimension to Subaru?
I don't really care either way, I'd prefer it be AWD and honestly think it will be.
I don't think a RWD car fits with Suby. A turbo coupe will bring a fresh look to the line up IMO.
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Originally Posted by modifiedMR
Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd ratherthan
and need a shot of penicillin.
BAD! AWD is what makes a Subaru a Subaru! But I agree, they need a turbo coupelol
05' STi
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The latest Auto Car are saying that the Scooby version will be coming in 4WD/AWD and a price tag from Ģ22k. This sounds more realistic to me than a 2WD Scooby to be honest!!
AWD and/or Naturally Aspirated (only) = Not Subaru.
IMO it seriously hurts the Subaru brand. However to make the FT-86 as we know it AWD + Turbo is simple, and I think we've already seen it in the mule by Subaru.
Question is, on FT-86 release date, do you go buy one or wait for the Subaru variant?
Well hopefully by the time the production model ft86 is out, subaru will at least have released a tangible concept...
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I rather have Subaru as AWD and FT86 as RWD as usual.
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How about an AWD Suby with optional RWD mode?
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Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather
keep dreaming
lol
05' STi
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The only problem I could see with Subaru bringing out an AWD version of this car, is that they won't want to poach sales of the WRX STI, which they see as their performance king of the hill. So they will soften this car down to keep it inline, performance wise, with the other cars that will cost the same in their line-up (WRX).
Subaru is changing the Impreza up anyway. The WRX/STI are to become seperate models
From the impreza. Why not a coupe/sedan/hatch version.
news to me
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Really don't believe that Subaru is going with RWD unless they're going to use Toyota's transmission.
How about a Subie with differential settings to 100% RWD, as like the GTR? Subaru does need to make changes in their trans/diffs too, it's been a long time.
i change my diff settings to move torque to the rear now... at least i think thats what im doing... but it doesnt really seem to be anything desirable lol
just leave that shit on auto
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Would prefer subaru to maintain an all AWD line.... else this will be their combo breakeR
Why? The Subaru tranny can handle it.
I would like to see two versions. RWD and AWD. If BMW can do it, why can't Subaru? Nothing like seeing a coupe with a killer staggered wheel set up!
i think the subie should be awd and the ft-86 rwd. the ft has to be rwd as it would not be an -86 if it wasn't. subaru can change their brand with this, but i bet it won't do it. IMO, the subaru should be the upscale model with a sweet change f/r ratio awd setup and the ft should stay simple and be rwd. keep them different and the mods should be interchangeable so, we could see some cool tuner setups out of this.
IIRC, the tranny for either the rwd/awd setup derives from the sti. they just took out the axles for the front wheels to make it rwd. subaru has been using rwd sti's in japan and time attack for a long time. they only recently switched to awd in some cars. the awd was too heavy, but they've done mods (i think mostly carbon driveshafts) to it for those cars to make them more competitive. rally cars are a different story.
for racing rwd>awd. only the sick front to rear power shifting setups (which IIRC, the sti has from something like 41 % F/ 59% rear and can shift the power side-to-side), have advantages over a traditional rwd. still, they are heavier, which is always bad for performance.
http://www.drive.subaru.com/Win09/Wi...sWhatMakes.htm
i want a turbo 2.5 rwd version. don't care which brand!
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I would actually like Subaru's version to be AWD if only to differentiate itself from Toyota's version (and also to quiet down the Subaru fanbois from crying about there being a RWD Subaru
^I at first wanted this as well, but then I realized a RWD 2.5L turbo would be all low end torque and the redline would be set below 7k (6700rpm in the STI). Not to mention poor mpg. I'm now leaning more towards a RWD high-revving (at least 8k rpm redline please) 2.0L NA model. If this came out as a Toyota (or Scion/whatever), then it would be nice to see an AWD 2.5L turbo version from Subaru. Two different models but both very tempting in their own right.
Yes, the tranny can handle it and then some. But, the focus they would have is to keep costs down. Developing a tranny requires time and money, if Toyota is going to use their tranny in the car (FR-S/FT-86) why shouldn't Subaru just use Toyota's too? It would keep costs down.
BUT, if Subaru creates a tranny that is like the GT-R, that would be super...going from AWD to 100% to rear wheels would be wild. BUT, I really doubt they would do that. So, it's likely it will not happen....even if so..it would take some time.
personalyi think its a great move as long as they have a rear diff that can hold the power because those r160s and r180s that came in the regular impreza and wrx/sti couldnt hold much power does any one by anychance know what diff there using in this car
Uhhh did anybody forget that the Impreza used to be offered in FWD.
Either way, I don't think it would matter too much. I mean, what percentage of you guys here even track? I bet pretty slim, but that's off the topic.
Last edited by HakosukaBunta; 01-28-2011 at 08:06 PM.
it did come in front wheel drive but you can convert the awd impreza to rwd by welding the center diff but that puts alot of stress on the rear diff they were not built to take all the power by themselves usually when people do convert to rwd they take an r200 diff from a 240sx or somethin
No...but it's good that you brought it up.
Another good question for our members. Let the comments begin!
Offering the Subaru with 4wd and the Toyota with rwd makes buckets of sense to me.Partially because Subaru hasnīt made a rwd car in ages,and has become synonymous with 4wd,and partially because offering both versions with the same layout would be wasteful and redundant.
I don't track at all, I love some sharp curves in the kouki but no track for me.
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Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather
Eljay> subaru's are AWD, not 4wd. they are vastly different, with AWD being much better, imo.
once again, this car is pretty much ALL subaru. the tranny is derived from the STI, in both RWD and AWD applications that might be in this car. part of the reason it's taken so long to come out is figuring out how the tranny/rear diff would work and last in a RWD setup, since it was designed for the awd STI. going AWD wouldn't be hard to do for this car depending on the mounting of the engine, which was probably already setup to be both AWD and RWD.
i have very little doubt that the subie will be AWD and the scion will be RWD. the scion may release an AWD option at some point. also, it is likely the engine will be the 2.0, which will be ok as long as they have a turbo option. IIRC, they have it as an option per posted on here.
a 6700 redline isn't as long as the gear ratio's are longer. a high-rev'er would be cool, but usually synchro's take a beating when you set up a car like that. s2000 are notorious for grinding gears.
i go to the drag strip and plan on doing track racing in the future. right now, i may put off buying this car and build up my mr2 and track it. might even just keep it.
91 hardtop mr2 turbo
had it been last month i would have agreed with you 100%
but if you check the other thread, Fuji Heavy released an official statement that it will be RWD
unfortunately IMO
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Good point. I'm not looking for a track car and I don't track now. If I were to buy this car it would be for a spirited A-B car, for me. As long as the car is a blast to drive I could care less.
I used to! But I honestly dont have the money anymore
05' STi
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Woooo! RWD Subaru!!!
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