Toyota Celica or Scion tC? Toyota reportedly deliberating over production FT-86 namep

[sinnaever]

Why not name it according to the Market like the old AE86 was.

The AE86 had three different names. (That I can think of)
1) Sprinter Trueno
2) Corolla Levin
3) Corolla

Now that is going back to the roots.
I don't know about you guys but bringing back a 2-Door Corolla might work here in North America. Especially if you attach the old SR5 (NA) / GT-S (Turbo).

Ya the Corolla name has adopted the stigma of "Grandma's Car", but then again the AE86 was a Corolla. Just my opinion. I personally think the Celica is gone and should not come back. Too much Damage, and bad memories from the last model before its death.

[Nemesis]

Why not name it according to the Market like the old AE86 was.

The AE86 had three different names. (That I can think of)
1) Sprinter Trueno
2) Corolla Levin
3) Corolla

Now that is going back to the roots.
I don't know about you guys but bringing back a 2-Door Corolla might work here in North America. Especially if you attach the old SR5 (NA) / GT-S (Turbo).

Ya the Corolla name has adopted the stigma of "Grandma's Car", but then again the AE86 was a Corolla. Just my opinion. I personally think the Celica is gone and should not come back. Too much Damage, and bad memories from the last model before its death.

Are you suggesting we call this awesome beast a corolla? 'Cause the last corolla I owned was a 4-door car I used to get groceries and hoped no one noticed me in. The Corolla name is too far from sexy and would never work in the states. You can give the current Corolla 300hp and I'd still laugh at it. Trueno, Levin, SR5 even, but please no Corolla. If they name it Corolla they might as well paint it pink and put a bow on it, 'cause they just cut the nuts off of it. if that happens I will rebadge it and hope no one notices....

[West]

Registered just for this.

To be honest, I don't think it is going to be Celica or TC,
FT-86 right? Supposedly the successor of the AE86? Well, if I recall, the AE86, aka the Trueno/Levin were all variations under the Corolla line. and I'm pretty sure, the Corolla and the Celica are not on the same level of Toyotas. TC is the successor of the Celica, and the TC just got a redesign, look it up, it looks like a mini Avalon coupe. That design is bound to stay for another five years, and in five years, I'm guessing the FT-86 would be out already while the new (then old) TC would still be there and would have a few more years to go.

If there is still any common sense for Toyota, the FT-86 would most likely be plated as the returning Trueno/Levin and would take the spot in the Toyota line as the coupe version of the Corolla S. After all that's what the AE86 was right? The coupe version of the Corolla. I'm sure Toyota would not have build up all this hype to name it a Coroala S or XRS. I seriously think and hope they are bringing back the nameplate of the Trueno/Levin. It's like how the Matrix is basically the hatchback version of the Corolla, or the Solara is the coupe version of the Camry. The FT-86 would most likely be the coupe version of the Corolla.

Unless Toyota does a complete work of stupidity and names the the TC (aka successor of the Celica).

Here is some pictures of the latest Trueno/Levin

I think we all know the inspiration of the FT-86, obviously there is one car which it refers to. The only issue I feel as an American is the Corolla name heavily branded as an econo box, not that the FT-86 cant fit that but in todays marketing world it would just seem odd. I would prefer the car to fall under the Corolla line and receive the Springer Trueno/Levin name. I just don't think it will happen. The Celica nameplate would seem weird after Toyota branding the car with the FT-86 name, but you have to admit with Subaru's involvement this car could just as easily fall with a Celica name. This car is a mash of Toyota's roots and one which I think Toyota is trying to communicate with its recent photos of the FT-86 with the AE86/Celica/Supra. So what is this car, time will tell. It just as well might receive a new name.



From my general feeling, us fans "desire" the Sprinter Trueno/Levin name. However we feel it will receive the Celica name.

[Exitspeed]

Sprinter, Trueno or Levin have no meaning to 95% of Americans. I just don't see it happening.

I don't see it being associated with the Corolla at all. Like West said, the Corolla is not a car people think of when they think of fun sporty RWD cars. People think of FWD econobox. That is not how Toyota is going to market this thing. And again, the old school names have no connection to most Americans. I wouldn't doubt it would use one of those names in Japan, but not here.

And the Tc is NOT the Celica successor. This car is the closest to a Celica successor we've seen. The Tc was aimed at a much broader audience then the Celica.

[sinnaever]

The North American Market is too picky to name it Trueno / Levin mainly because like others mentioned, no one knows what those are/were.

Celica is dead.

I am starting to think a new name will be given. And the naming pattern might follow suit of the Lexus/Scion naming style.

Ex.
IS250/300/350
IS-F
GS
SC
xB
xA
tC

Toyota may not give it a name, but rather an acronym with numbers to describe the engine size or displacement. Just a hunch

[Exitspeed]

The Toyota line has all names though. If it's a Toyota I believe it'll have a name like Celica. If it's a Lexus (which I HIGHLY HIGHLY DOUBT) it'll go with the letters and number nomenclature. If it's a Scion, same thing.

[sinnaever]

I know the Toyota line has all names... but that doesn't stop them from changing it up. What's an "MR2" anyway? That isn't a name, but it was branded a Toyota.

"Mid-Engine, RWD, 2-Seater"

who's to say this won't be something like BR4
"Boxer-Engine, RWD, 4-Seater"

I am just saying, we shouldn't assume Toyota will bring back a dead car's name for the new face of Toyota. (Even if us enthusiasts would like to see Trueno, Levin, Celica etc...)

[Exitspeed]

I know the Toyota line has all names... but that doesn't stop them from changing it up. What's an "MR2" anyway? That isn't a name, but it was branded a Toyota.

"Mid-Engine, RWD, 2-Seater"

who's to say this won't be something like BR4
"Boxer-Engine, RWD, 4-Seater"

I am just saying, we shouldn't assume Toyota will bring back a dead car's name for the new face of Toyota. (Even if us enthusiasts would like to see Trueno, Levin, Celica etc...)

Obviously there are exceptions.

All we can do is speculate right now anyway.

[corry29]

And the Tc is NOT the Celica successor. This car is the closest to a Celica successor we've seen. The Tc was aimed at a much broader audience then the Celica.

I'm sorry, but the tC was meant to take up the Celica spot in America,

Scion tC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

btw, I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubbles, but I just read today that its gonna be similar to the Solara..
along with the increase price and engine nerf

http://jalopnik.com/5521080/report-t...nto-the-solara

*EDIT, don't get the wrong idea thats its gonna be named Solara, the title is really misleading.

[Exitspeed]

I'm sorry, but the tC was meant to take up the Celica spot in America,

Scion tC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia is not fact. It was NOT a direct replacement for the Celica. Wiki even says it's "genrally considered to be the replacement". Toyora never came out and said it. And the cars a quite a bit different other then their FF layout.

btw, I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubbles, but I just read today that its gonna be similar to the Solara..
along with the increase price and engine nerf

REPORT: Toyota's Turning The FT-86 Into The Solara - Toyota FT-86 - Jalopnik

*EDIT, don't get the wrong idea thats its gonna be named Solara, the title is really misleading.

Again, more speculation. No facts from Toyota.

[sinnaever]

I'm sorry, but the tC was meant to take up the Celica spot in America,

Scion tC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

btw, I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubbles, but I just read today that its gonna be similar to the Solara..
along with the increase price and engine nerf

REPORT: Toyota's Turning The FT-86 Into The Solara - Toyota FT-86 - Jalopnik

*EDIT, don't get the wrong idea thats its gonna be named Solara, the title is really misleading.

You do realize that internet bloggers are making things up regarding the fate of the FT-86 right? Just like everything on here is speculation. It won't be a Solara replacement.

[West]

I'm sorry, but the tC was meant to take up the Celica spot in America,

Scion tC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

btw, I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubbles, but I just read today that its gonna be similar to the Solara..
along with the increase price and engine nerf

REPORT: Toyota's Turning The FT-86 Into The Solara - Toyota FT-86 - Jalopnik

*EDIT, don't get the wrong idea thats its gonna be named Solara, the title is really misleading.

While it might took it's spot the tC is not considered the same car.

Sadly I sent my article on the price increase to jalopnik a few nights ago, they are saying the Solara as a joke. considering the Solara was an older persons affordable coupe/convertible.

But yea I see their point...

[sinnaever]

I was close...

FR-S is the choice supposedly.

Front-Engine, Rwd, Sport Coupe

I guessed it would be something along the lines of a MR-2 naming scheme.

I know the Toyota line has all names... but that doesn't stop them from changing it up. What's an "MR2" anyway? That isn't a name, but it was branded a Toyota.

"Mid-Engine, RWD, 2-Seater"

who's to say this won't be something like BR4
"Boxer-Engine, RWD, 4-Seater"

I am just saying, we shouldn't assume Toyota will bring back a dead car's name for the new face of Toyota. (Even if us enthusiasts would like to see Trueno, Levin, Celica etc...)

[Trueno]

I was close...

FR-S is the choice supposedly.

Front-Engine, Rwd, Sport Coupe

I guessed it would be something along the lines of a MR-2 naming scheme.

Good point, I didn't even catch the name reference of the MR-2. Almost solidifies the FR-S name over the recent trademark "86".

Does this mean the MR-2 resurfacing rumors are true?