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    BRZ STi Concept feature on Speedhunters

    Last edited by Cal; 02-02-2012 at 09:42 PM.

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    Thanks for the link. I looked at the engine compartment closely. I think adding a low pressure turbo kit in the front is not a major problem, got some room for it. Long live the turbo!

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    eh. Once again, nothing that makes it worth paying much more for. The CF roof, hood and rims are about the only REAL upgrades. Having hardcore brakes on a 200 hp (170 whp) car isn't going to help braking much, if at all. Needs mo powa
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    To me it would depend on just how much of a premium it would add. The hood, roof and aero, yes. Suspension upgrade, yes. Exhaust, engine bay dress-up, brakes and wheels, not so much. I'd rather go aftermarket with those parts.

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    I would say dropping 200 kilo is a pretty big upgrade.
    Edit: Nevermind, they said the BRZ was 200 kilo lighter than the WRX STI.

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    Now that is just hot.
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    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    holy.. I wanna buy one now! lol
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    why did i not open this till now???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genki View Post
    I would say dropping 200 kilo is a pretty big upgrade.
    Edit: Nevermind, they said the BRZ was 200 kilo lighter than the WRX STI.
    FTW. Seriously, when you read the comments in the article it's mostly folks complaining about no power increase - its completely ignorant. When you reduce a vehicles weight while preserving the same engine output the net gain is a quicker car. That's what they want right?

    Sign me up I'll take a weight reduction - that's just as fun !

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    Besides if TRD is making a super charger package for the GT86 it is not like Subaru is not going to sit around twiddling their thumbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGT View Post
    FTW. Seriously, when you read the comments in the article it's mostly folks complaining about no power increase - its completely ignorant. When you reduce a vehicles weight while preserving the same engine output the net gain is a quicker car. That's what they want right?

    Sign me up I'll take a weight reduction - that's just as fun !
    Weight reduction is nice, but it will not come close to what adding a turbo would do for power to weight, which is key. I dropping 100 lbs, which the STI probably doesn't even do, will not be near as affective as adding 60 hp or even better 100 hp.

    Dropping weight, however does have the benefit of making a car more agile in the turns, but this car is already agile. The benefit will not outweigh the power deficiency. On top of boost adding power to peak hp, it usually adds gobs more power in the low range. Stock turbos/superchargers are setup for quick spool/boost, so the benefit would also be a beefed up, low-end grunt, which this car lacks somewhat.
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    I would always take a weight reduction vs. a comparable power increase. Reduced weight improves every measured perfomance aspect, more power makes it faster. Obviously if we were a bit lopsided with the power increase it would be a lot faster but I would rather have a feather weight corner carver that is fast, handles and stops well and gets better mileage vs. a car that is just faster and most likely less efficient.

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    I was just miffed that the exhaust system does nothing to add power. Maybe it is more efficient and can eke out a few HP with a tune.

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    my only thing is I would hate to buy and STI version of one without a turbo only for them to add one in a future model. It's going to make me hold out at least the the second model year till more news and rumors come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGT View Post
    my only thing is I would hate to buy and STI version of one without a turbo only for them to add one in a future model. It's going to make me hold out at least the the second model year till more news and rumors come out.
    I agree.

    Dropping weight that gets you close to or at the same power to weight as power adders would get you is better, but rarely is it the case that you can lighten a car for the same $ as make more power to achieve better performance. The reason I am even interested in this car is that it is lighter than my sw20 turbo stock and newer. Still, being a such high compression engine and not that light, it's still needs something for me to be swayed to paying $25-32k and then add to that higher insurance.
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