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    Quote Originally Posted by celicajim View Post
    FT86:
    Length: 163.78 inches / Width: 69.29 inches / Height: 48.19 inches / Wheelbase: 101.18 inches

    ZZT231 Celica:
    Length: 170.67 inches / Width: 68.31 inches / Height: 51.77 inches / Wheelbase: 102.36 inches

    Scion FR-S
    Length: 168.2 inches / Width: 71.5 inches / Height: 47.4 inches / Wheelbase – 101.2 inches
    (Front Track – 61.8, Rear Track – 59.9)
    Genesis Coupe Specs
    Wheelbase 111.0 in
    Length 182.3 in
    Width 73.4 in
    Height 54.3 in
    Last edited by Cal; 04-26-2011 at 12:46 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    ^^^^^^ assuming that is the Scion FR-S updated specs...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G4BROKE View Post
    ^^^^^^ assuming that is the Scion FR-S updated specs...?

    uhh I guess. I just quoted him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    uhh I guess. I just quoted him.
    your comment I was suggesting, latest stat for concept or production?

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    latest for concept
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    so this car is over a foot longer now? i hope this thing isn't going to weight over 2800 lbs! it's now a foot longer than the last gen celica, which weighed in around 2450-2550 lbs. can they keep this thing light? i mean it has a drive shaft and transfer case over the celica AND is a foot longer. not to mention 5" wider. i can see being somewhat wider, but longer too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    so this car is over a foot longer now? i hope this thing isn't going to weight over 2800 lbs! it's now a foot longer than the last gen celica, which weighed in around 2450-2550 lbs. can they keep this thing light? i mean it has a drive shaft and transfer case over the celica AND is a foot longer. not to mention 5" wider. i can see being somewhat wider, but longer too?
    ...no it's not? where are u reading this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by celicajim View Post
    FT86 Concept:
    Length: 163.78 inches / Width: 69.29 inches / Height: 48.19 inches / Wheelbase: 101.18 inches

    Scion FR-S Concept
    Length: 168.2 inches / Width: 71.5 inches / Height: 47.4 inches / Wheelbase – 101.2 inches
    (Front Track – 61.8, Rear Track – 59.9)
    Scion FR-S Concept is
    4.4 inches longer / 2.2 inches wider / 0.8 inches lower / wheelbase same
    compared to the first FT-86 Concept.

    Lower and wider is always good
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    Yes I am clueless to where he got a foot longer. Clearly is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    Yes I am clueless to where he got a foot longer. Clearly is not.
    from this assumingly:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    Wheelbase 111.0 in
    Length 182.3 in
    Width 73.4 in
    Height 54.3 in

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    Quote Originally Posted by G4BROKE View Post
    from this assumingly:
    ^^^
    those were specs from the Genesis! lol
    not the fr-s
    mystery solved
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    Oops lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    Yeah...it's fixed..LOL.

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    FT 86
    163.78 inches / Width: 69.29 inches / Height: 48.19 inches / Wheelbase: 101.18 inches

    Porsche Caymen 2011
    172.3 inches / Width 70.9 inches / Height 51.3 inches / Wheelbase 95.1 inches

    Porsche Boxster 2011
    172.1 inches / width 70.9 / height 50.9 inches / wheelbase 95.1 inches

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    ^^^^^Welcome

    That ride height will definitely raise up if it is lower than a Porsche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ej25ti View Post
    ^^^
    those were specs from the Genesis! lol
    not the fr-s
    mystery solved
    yeah, that was what i had thought with that post. thank goodness too.

    lower than a cayman? hell yeah. i probably won't get one of these when they come out and probably never new if they are 30k , but i will probably own one someday. mad at toyota for driving up the price!!!! should be $25k for a turbo model with a 2.5L!!!!

    cal> ride height and height are different. it says it's overall height is 2~3" lower, but it could have 2" more of ground clearance (referred to as ride height sometimes). means the seating/headroom might be smaller though or more tilted? who knows exactly. i'm not really tall, but hopefully i can fit with a helmet
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    cal> ride height and height are different. it says it's overall height is 2~3" lower, but it could have 2" more of ground clearance (referred to as ride height sometimes). means the seating/headroom might be smaller though or more tilted? who knows exactly. i'm not really tall, but hopefully i can fit with a helmet
    Ah I understand that. I have no doubts I could fit in. 5'6 3/4 says I can fit in anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    this is good news - I need to find out what my R53 (MINI Cooper S) would be in inches ... for a comp to a car which really does have a wheel at each corner.

    OK so a MINI comes out as 143.9" long x 66.5" wide (without mirrors) x 55.7" high with a 97.1" wheelbase, and c. 2500-2600lbs. So, nearly 19.88 inches longer, 2.79 inches wider, and a whopping 7.51 inches lower - it should have an excellent, even wider wheel track for super pointy steering (if set up properly) and great handling!
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    What are you lot worried about with accomodation? Next I'll be reading about how many cup holders this thing has. In fact if I see an actual cup holder, I'll be in despair. And If my lanky friends can sit in a MINI without any trouble, this is a no-brainer, since it'll be wider...

    It mostly depends on the seat, the seat height, and the positioning of the wheel and pedal set, and how much space the transmission tunnel takes up. Hopefully, ToyoBaru won't cock up when it comes to converting from right hand drive to left hand drive (for America and Europe markets cf Japan and Britain), as a low slung engine/gearbox could take up a lot of space from where you might like to have the steering column and your feet...

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    It better have a damn cup holder. I don't need anything big enough to fit a 128 oz MEGA DRANK in, but I would at least like to be able to sit a bottle of soda or water down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    It better have a damn cup holder. I don't need anything big enough to fit a 128 oz MEGA DRANK in, but I would at least like to be able to sit a bottle of soda or water down.
    i need a MEGA DRANK cup holder for my Sidewalk Slams!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ej25ti View Post
    ^^
    hm 163 to 168 actually is kinda a big jump =/
    Whats concerning is the the wheelbase stayed the same, so thats 5" length and 2" width is all bodywork to accommodate the length and wheels. Knowing Scion and what I saw at NYIAS, this car was very much a Concept. There was no safety regulation influence here. Seeing it in person, it didn't look that small. Although I've never seen a car on its lonesome on a stage. haha.

    Considering the weight of recent the Celica and MR-2, we can conclude this car will be 2700lb or less. They are targeting a lightweight and nimble car. We will get that. If a 2.0l is thrown in a 3000lb car no one will give it the time of day. Myself included, Id buy a 370z.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West View Post
    Considering the weight of recent the Celica and MR-2, we can conclude this car will be 2700lb or less. They are targeting a lightweight and nimble car. We will get that. If a 2.0l is thrown in a 3000lb car no one will give it the time of day. Myself included, Id buy a 370z.
    Hmm the Genesis is 3289lb 370z 3250lb hmm I am not sure about 2700 but I can see 2900-3100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    the wrx is 3200 lbs and the sti is 3350 or so.

    dimensions of wrx
    wheelbase 103.3
    overall length 180.3
    width 70.3 (without mirrors)
    height 58.1


    the frs is a foot shorter, 10" lower and a 1.5" wider. I would say it should weigh in at 2800 lbs or less. the awd has got to be over 75 lbs and the lowered height and a foot shorter should make up another 100 lbs. that's not to mention this is non-turbo and 2.0 vs 2.5L. turbos and intercooler parts are heavy. real heavy. i would say at least another 50 lbs. i will still rock one on it though.
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    I hope they add turbo bits heavy or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

 

 
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