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scoobie · 10-15-2009, 10:08 PM

Here is the models I hope for and the prices I'm expecting.

Toyota FT-86 Base = $20,000
Toyota FT-86 TRD = $22,000
Toyota FT-86 Turbo TRD = $25,000

Subaru 086a Base = $20,000
Subaru 086a STi Turbo $25,000

I dont see them offering many different models, and those are hopeful prices! I dont want to see anything over $25,000 MSRP.

If they can build a Scion tC for $18,000 MSRP there is NO reason this car should be over $20k for a base model.

Axel · 10-16-2009, 09:18 AM

This is what I'd pay for the following combo's... not saying they would necessarily cost this much. But when you start upgrading all aspects (including tires, brakes, wheels, etc). from the Scion tC products, I think the price will start going up.

#1 choice - Subaru 086A w/EJ25 $27K
#2 choice - Subaru 086A STi w/EJ25T $32K
#3 choice - Toyota FT-86 w/EJ20 $23K
#4 choice - Subaru 086A w/EJ20 $23K

scoobie · 10-16-2009, 09:44 PM

Yea it will probably be the reality, IMO that's too much money.

Anyone going to wait for used models to start selling before they buy? I am even if it kills me to wait.

West · 10-18-2009, 10:51 AM

Ill buy new if Turbo options are available.

Here is what I think, no particular order of preference.

Toyota FT-86 Base (EJ20) = $21,000
Toyota FT-86 TRD (EJ20) = $23,000
Toyota FT-86 Turbo TRD (EJ20) = $26,000 (To be offered 2-3rd year)

Subaru 086a Base (EJ20) = $21,000
Subaru 086a STi Turbo (EJ20) $26,000 (To be offered 2-3rd year)

FT-Omnom · 10-20-2009, 06:09 PM

I dont care! Just give me the GOODS! 2011/2012 cant come soon enough!

Exitspeed · 10-21-2009, 01:00 PM

I'm hoping for it to start in the low $20's. I'd want it to MAX out at about $28k. And I'm talking aero, diff, TRD this and TRD that.

Most of all I don't want Navigation even as an option. No heated or cooled seats, no cooler in the glove box, none of that shit. Simple and driver oriented. I love the simplicity of the cockpit in the concept.

I'd be happy with say a base model (no sunroof), 6 speed, power locks/windows, LSD, Aero, 18 or 17" wheels (which would be swapped out ASAP anyway) for $25k. I could put like $10-$15,000 down and have a really small payment.

DownhillMR2 · 11-01-2009, 03:41 PM

I'm gonna go with high 18's to low 20's on a non-turbo version. I'm thinking the base model will come with either steelies, or cheap rims that look decent. 6-speed manual, no fancy dash works, maybe a standard Aux hookup and a 6-speaker single-disc CD player\MP3. Open diff, of course, cloth seats, etc. I'm hoping that's the case. As nice as the higher-end models will be, I'd rather get the cheaper one (lower payment WOO

), and just make it my own from there.

Cwrigh25 · 11-02-2009, 09:35 PM

Toyota FT-86 Base = $21,000
Toyota FT-86 TRD = $23,000
Toyota FT-86 Turbo TRD = $26,000

Subaru 086a Base = $22,000
Subaru 086a STi Turbo $27,000

mRodiek · 11-08-2009, 11:52 PM

They SHOULD offer a stripped down version, as mentioned similar to the EVO & STI's. Im talkin no AC or power options and even no CD player, this can keep the price down $17-18k which is perfect for young driving [minimalist] enthusiasts.

Exitspeed · 11-09-2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mRodiek

They SHOULD offer a stripped down version, as mentioned similar to the EVO & STI's. Im talkin no AC or power options and even no CD player, this can keep the price down $17-18k which is perfect for young driving [minimalist] enthusiasts.

While we would like this I don't see them actually offering such a hardcore version of the car. Don't forgot this car is still gonna be targeted at women like every other sport coupe out there. Because that's they only way they will actually be able to build such a car.

It would be cool if they would try to cater to us enthusiasts a little more though.

Cwrigh25 · 11-10-2009, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exitspeed

While we would like this I don't see them actually offering such a hardcore version of the car. Don't forgot this car is still gonna be targeted at women like every other sport coupe out there. Because that's they only way they will actually be able to build such a car.

It would be cool if they would try to cater to us enthusiasts a little more though.

Kind of like the chevy cobalt, though I hope it doesn't go the way of th cobalt.

West · 11-10-2009, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exitspeed

While we would like this I don't see them actually offering such a hardcore version of the car. Don't forgot this car is still gonna be targeted at women like every other sport coupe out there. Because that's they only way they will actually be able to build such a car.

It would be cool if they would try to cater to us enthusiasts a little more though.

Back in 95 when I bought my first 240sx noone knew what the car was and as a majority girls drove the cars.

I don't expect to see a no power locks windows option, that adds little weight and little to the overall cost.

Exitspeed · 11-10-2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by West

Back in 95 when I bought my first 240sx noone knew what the car was and as a majority girls drove the cars.

I don't expect to see a no power locks windows option, that adds little weight and little to the overall cost.

Same with the radio and AC. I just don't see them offering without.

I can't live without a radio though. As hardcore as I am. lol

Darkman · 11-11-2009, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cwrigh25

Toyota FT-86 Base = $22,300
Toyota FT-86 TRD = $24,100
Toyota FT-86 Turbo TRD = $26,995 (EJ255)

Subaru 086a Base = $23,100 (2.5i)
Subaru 086a STi Turbo $30,400 (EJ257)

Fixed.....

a2cpc · 11-12-2009, 06:34 AM

I am hoping for an out the door price of $30k for the AWD STI. Of course, hoping and reality are two different things. I don't know if I would buy the RWD. I am on my 4th Subaru and really appreciate its AWD system. I am not trying to start a RWD/AWD war here(that has been done to death), just stating my preferences.

Exitspeed · 11-12-2009, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a2cpc

I am hoping for an out the door price of $30k for the AWD STI. Of course, hoping and reality are two different things. I don't know if I would buy the RWD. I am on my 4th Subaru and really appreciate its AWD system. I am not trying to start a RWD/AWD war here(that has been done to death), just stating my preferences.

That is the beauty of what they are doing here. They have the opportunity to please EVERYONE. Well except for the FWD Honda fanboys.

It would be a real shame for them to release one or the other here and not both. If they just release the RWD Toyota version then the AWD crowd will be disappointed. And visa-versa if they just release the Suby AWD version.

ej25ti · 11-12-2009, 11:58 AM

Wow, you guys have some low prices! Espescially for the STi models! Subaru would never offer it that cheap with all of the STi options it would have on it.... hence the cost of the current STi...
Also... the base genesis coupe seems pretty comparable to what the bas FT-86 might be... and that starts at $22k.

Even though it's not exactly what I would want, this is my best guess...

Toyota FT-86 Base (EJ253): $22,000
??Toyota FT-86x (AWD EJ253): $24,000
Toyota FT-86 GT (EJ255): $27,000 offered 1 year after production

Subaru 086a WRX (EJ255): $25,000
Subaru 086a STi (EJ257): $32,000 offered 1 year after production

mRodiek · 11-17-2009, 12:09 PM

Thats what I am HOPING for, not what I am expecting. I know they wont actually offer it without power options & a radio but it would be cool to see a manufacturer try it.

Scratch the radio-less idea, I drove my S13 for 2 months without music and I hated it with a passion

blood mtn · 11-18-2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mRodiek

Thats what I am HOPING for, not what I am expecting. I know they wont actually offer it without power options & a radio but it would be cool to see a manufacturer try it.

Scratch the radio-less idea, I drove my S13 for 2 months without music and I hated it with a passion

My radio was stolen out of my s13 about 5 years ago. It prompted me to get an ipod and haven't went back yet.

mRodiek · 12-08-2009, 04:08 PM

^Another good reason to not get a stereo for my S13, I just jam on my iphone ha

RollaMonster · 12-12-2009, 12:48 AM

im liking the prices. but the car is edging into GTI territory

DownhillMR2 · 12-12-2009, 03:13 AM

GTI =/= FT86. End of story. A FF I4 Turbo does not compare to a FR\AWD turbo 4. Price range may be similar, but performance is going to be massively different.

RollaMonster · 12-12-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DownhillMR2

GTI =/= FT86. End of story. A FF I4 Turbo does not compare to a FR\AWD turbo 4. Price range may be similar, but performance is going to be massively different.

I completely agree.
im not say that the FT86 and the GTI will compete in terms of proformance too much (fwd v rwd= rwd ftw) all im saying is they will compete in sells given that there are not many other rwd sports compacts on the market currently.

SUPRAtruc2JZGE · 12-30-2009, 02:29 PM

In for $20-25g, for me I want Topends 86. Only thing to change the name whatever they gona put...

Cwrigh25 · 12-30-2009, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUPRAtruc2JZGE

In for $20-25g, for me I want Topends 86. Only thing to change the name whatever they gona put...

Well right now there is no name so it could end up being a lot of things.

SUPRAtruc2JZGE · 12-30-2009, 04:01 PM

lmao I know so damn true, that why I'm waiting the name so if I going to get one I will change it to either Corolla/Trueno/Levin, however if they put FT86 as default. Then I will leave it the way it is... I know "Celica" might appear, just not feeling that name on that car at all. That's just my thoughs. Let's pray something good for this little badass name for FT86.

ej25ti · 01-04-2010, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUPRAtruc2JZGE

lmao I know so damn true, that why I'm waiting the name so if I going to get one I will change it to either Corolla/Trueno/Levin, however if they put FT86 as default. Then I will leave it the way it is... I know "Celica" might appear, just not feeling that name on that car at all. That's just my thoughs. Let's pray something good for this little badass name for FT86.

it won't be FT-86, that's just the name of the concept

Driftr · 01-16-2010, 05:04 PM

Man once this baby comes out i have to get it even if its the base model

pierceman · 01-22-2010, 09:36 AM

sti ftw......

ProZach626 · 01-22-2010, 11:04 AM

I'm guessing between 24.5-27k for toyotas version.

For the 'sti' between 30-32k.

10-15-2009, 10:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
scoobie Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28	FT-86 & 086a Pricing, what are you expecting? Here is the models I hope for and the prices I'm expecting. Toyota FT-86 Base = $20,000 Toyota FT-86 TRD = $22,000 Toyota FT-86 Turbo TRD = $25,000 Subaru 086a Base = $20,000 Subaru 086a STi Turbo $25,000 I dont see them offering many different models, and those are hopeful prices! I dont want to see anything over $25,000 MSRP. If they can build a Scion tC for $18,000 MSRP there is NO reason this car should be over $20k for a base model.

10-16-2009, 09:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
Axel Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 24	This is what I'd pay for the following combo's... not saying they would necessarily cost this much. But when you start upgrading all aspects (including tires, brakes, wheels, etc). from the Scion tC products, I think the price will start going up. #1 choice - Subaru 086A w/EJ25 $27K #2 choice - Subaru 086A STi w/EJ25T $32K #3 choice - Toyota FT-86 w/EJ20 $23K #4 choice - Subaru 086A w/EJ20 $23K __________________

11-01-2009, 03:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
DownhillMR2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 17	I'm gonna go with high 18's to low 20's on a non-turbo version. I'm thinking the base model will come with either steelies, or cheap rims that look decent. 6-speed manual, no fancy dash works, maybe a standard Aux hookup and a 6-speaker single-disc CD player\MP3. Open diff, of course, cloth seats, etc. I'm hoping that's the case. As nice as the higher-end models will be, I'd rather get the cheaper one (lower payment WOO ), and just make it my own from there. Last edited by DownhillMR2; 11-01-2009 at 03:44 PM.

11-12-2009, 06:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
a2cpc Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 10	I am hoping for an out the door price of $30k for the AWD STI. Of course, hoping and reality are two different things. I don't know if I would buy the RWD. I am on my 4th Subaru and really appreciate its AWD system. I am not trying to start a RWD/AWD war here(that has been done to death), just stating my preferences. Last edited by a2cpc; 11-12-2009 at 06:41 AM.

11-12-2009, 11:58 AM	#17 (permalink)
ej25ti Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Springfield, MA Posts: 230	Wow, you guys have some low prices! Espescially for the STi models! Subaru would never offer it that cheap with all of the STi options it would have on it.... hence the cost of the current STi... Also... the base genesis coupe seems pretty comparable to what the bas FT-86 might be... and that starts at $22k. Even though it's not exactly what I would want, this is my best guess... Toyota FT-86 Base (EJ253): $22,000 ??Toyota FT-86x (AWD EJ253): $24,000 Toyota FT-86 GT (EJ255): $27,000 offered 1 year after production Subaru 086a WRX (EJ255): $25,000 Subaru 086a STi (EJ257): $32,000 offered 1 year after production __________________ 05' STi Last edited by ej25ti; 11-13-2009 at 01:37 AM.

10-16-2009, 09:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
scoobie Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28	Yea it will probably be the reality, IMO that's too much money. Anyone going to wait for used models to start selling before they buy? I am even if it kills me to wait.

10-18-2009, 10:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
West Administrator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, CO Age: 29 Posts: 604 View Photos By: West	Ill buy new if Turbo options are available. Here is what I think, no particular order of preference. Toyota FT-86 Base (EJ20) = $21,000 Toyota FT-86 TRD (EJ20) = $23,000 Toyota FT-86 Turbo TRD (EJ20) = $26,000 (To be offered 2-3rd year) Subaru 086a Base (EJ20) = $21,000 Subaru 086a STi Turbo (EJ20) $26,000 (To be offered 2-3rd year)

10-20-2009, 06:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
FT-Omnom Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SD, CA Posts: 31	I dont care! Just give me the GOODS! 2011/2012 cant come soon enough!

10-21-2009, 01:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
Exitspeed Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Shadow Complex Age: 30 Posts: 324	I'm hoping for it to start in the low $20's. I'd want it to MAX out at about $28k. And I'm talking aero, diff, TRD this and TRD that. Most of all I don't want Navigation even as an option. No heated or cooled seats, no cooler in the glove box, none of that shit. Simple and driver oriented. I love the simplicity of the cockpit in the concept. I'd be happy with say a base model (no sunroof), 6 speed, power locks/windows, LSD, Aero, 18 or 17" wheels (which would be swapped out ASAP anyway) for $25k. I could put like $10-$15,000 down and have a really small payment.

11-02-2009, 09:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cwrigh25 Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 489	Toyota FT-86 Base = $21,000 Toyota FT-86 TRD = $23,000 Toyota FT-86 Turbo TRD = $26,000 Subaru 086a Base = $22,000 Subaru 086a STi Turbo $27,000

11-08-2009, 11:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
mRodiek Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 13	They SHOULD offer a stripped down version, as mentioned similar to the EVO & STI's. Im talkin no AC or power options and even no CD player, this can keep the price down $17-18k which is perfect for young driving [minimalist] enthusiasts.

11-17-2009, 12:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
mRodiek Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 13	Thats what I am HOPING for, not what I am expecting. I know they wont actually offer it without power options & a radio but it would be cool to see a manufacturer try it. Scratch the radio-less idea, I drove my S13 for 2 months without music and I hated it with a passion

12-08-2009, 04:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
mRodiek Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 13	^Another good reason to not get a stereo for my S13, I just jam on my iphone ha

12-12-2009, 12:48 AM	#21 (permalink)
RollaMonster Newbie Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 10	im liking the prices. but the car is edging into GTI territory __________________

12-12-2009, 03:13 AM	#22 (permalink)
DownhillMR2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 17	GTI =/= FT86. End of story. A FF I4 Turbo does not compare to a FR\AWD turbo 4. Price range may be similar, but performance is going to be massively different.

12-30-2009, 02:29 PM	#24 (permalink)
SUPRAtruc2JZGE Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SGV Age: 35 Posts: 52	In for $20-25g, for me I want Topends 86. Only thing to change the name whatever they gona put...

12-30-2009, 04:01 PM	#26 (permalink)
SUPRAtruc2JZGE Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SGV Age: 35 Posts: 52	lmao I know so damn true, that why I'm waiting the name so if I going to get one I will change it to either Corolla/Trueno/Levin, however if they put FT86 as default. Then I will leave it the way it is... I know "Celica" might appear, just not feeling that name on that car at all. That's just my thoughs. Let's pray something good for this little badass name for FT86.

01-16-2010, 05:04 PM	#28 (permalink)
Driftr Newbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2	Man once this baby comes out i have to get it even if its the base model

01-22-2010, 09:36 AM	#29 (permalink)
pierceman Newbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal, OC Posts: 7	sti ftw...... __________________ 02 NSX supercharged sold 05 STI not stock sold 89 S13 Gutted caged track for sale 07 MDX stockified Burtons....

01-22-2010, 11:04 AM	#30 (permalink)
ProZach626 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 24	I'm guessing between 24.5-27k for toyotas version. For the 'sti' between 30-32k.

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