The Government said You are Stupid, now what?

[Cal]

This thread is like an interesting class.

[ej25ti]

ForRealSomeday... FR-S! Clever haha!

ohh haha just got that

[toyofan]

does anyone have any news on the release date of the fr-s? is it even confirmed? lol

[ej25ti]

does anyone have any news on the release date of the fr-s? is it even confirmed? lol

no, we probably wont know anything until the Tokyo Auto Show in December

[toyofan]

no, we probably wont know anything until the Tokyo Auto Show in December

so its probably not going to be an early 2012 release.. maybe late 2012 for a 2013 car?

[ej25ti]

right now it's set for late 2012

[Cal]

Which means that for us no 1st gen folks 2014.

[ej25ti]

Which means that for us no 1st gen folks 2014.

wait... you're waiting for second gen Cal?

[Cal]

wait... you're waiting for second gen Cal?

2nd Gen Suby is what I have my eyes on.

[ej25ti]

2nd Gen Suby is what I have my eyes on.

Suby? that's like even further away! lol

[toyofan]

Suby? that's like even further away! lol

the second year subie wont roll around til 2015 at the earliest... I would not want to wait that long... for me, 2nd gen turbo toyota would be the car I would go with... I really am looking forward to a stock turbo rwd car from toyota!

[Cal]

the second year subie wont roll around til 2015 at the earliest... I would not want to wait that long...

I can. It's only 4 years. Plenty of time for me to build the RB25 S14 and be tired of it and ready for a new car.

[toyofan]

I can. It's only 4 years. Plenty of time for me to build the RB25 S14 and be tired of it and ready for a new car.

wait, i thought u were doing an SR...

[Cal]

wait, i thought u were doing an SR...

Not me no. I thought about doing an SR, but I feel in love with the RB series engines so I want to do an RB25 build. Short list of what I am planning.

S1 or S2 RB25 from a R33 GTST Skyline
RB25 Hot Tanked
Bottem end rebuild with RB26 rods, CP pistons 9:1
RB26 Nismo N1 Oil Pump
Nismo Water Pump
RB25 Head rebuilt with 26 valve springs
ARP Head Studs
555 CC Nismo Injectors
Greddy Intake Manifold
Stock Exhaust manifold with Aussie Hypergear Rb25 Turbo
New Oem Cams
Nismo Flywheel
Z32 Maf
Nistune Ecu
ACT 6 Puck Clutch
Syko mounts
Mishimoto radiator with Flexilte fans, one set to push the other pull
Greddy Fmic
Greddy Type S bov
Syko Motors Mounts with SR20 downpipe

[ej25ti]

good plan cal

[Cal]

My brother called me today and said his friend with a GTST is wanting to swap out his RB25 for a 26. Hmm opportunity me thinks.

[toyofan]

Not me no. I thought about doing an SR, but I feel in love with the RB series engines so I want to do an RB25 build. Short list of what I am planning.

S1 or S2 RB25 from a R33 GTST Skyline
RB25 Hot Tanked
Bottem end rebuild with RB26 rods, CP pistons 9:1
RB26 Nismo N1 Oil Pump
Nismo Water Pump
RB25 Head rebuilt with 26 valve springs
ARP Head Studs
555 CC Nismo Injectors
Greddy Intake Manifold
Stock Exhaust manifold with Aussie Hypergear Rb25 Turbo
New Oem Cams
Nismo Flywheel
Z32 Maf
Nistune Ecu
ACT 6 Puck Clutch
Syko mounts
Mishimoto radiator with Flexilte fans, one set to push the other pull
Greddy Fmic
Greddy Type S bov
Syko Motors Mounts with SR20 downpipe

damn, where the hell are you going to get all that cash? seems like a pretty huge list... good luck man! also, when are you starting this project?

[Cal]

damn, where the hell are you going to get all that cash? seems like a pretty huge list... good luck man! also, when are you starting this project?

It's going to be spent over years. I am starting it next year hopefully. I plan to do everything in stages. Last year was buy the car. This year is suspension and aero. I still have sway bars, diff and multi-link arms to go this year. Next year I plan to buy the engine + get some of the swap parts. Year after that, rest of swap parts and drop in.

[toyofan]

It's going to be spent over years. I am starting it next year hopefully. I plan to do everything in stages. Last year was buy the car. This year is suspension and aero. I still have sway bars, diff and multi-link arms to go this year. Next year I plan to buy the engine + get some of the swap parts. Year after that, rest of swap parts and drop in.

very nice, what kind of numbers will you be looking at for hp of the finished product?

[Cal]

very nice, what kind of numbers will you be looking at for hp of the finished product?

425-455 max hp. Just normal driving 350-370hp. Much more than that is pushing the chassis limits from I have been told of others with high HP S14s.

[toyofan]

425-455 max hp. Just normal driving 350-370hp. Much more than that is pushing the chassis limits from I have been told of others with high HP S14s.

well good luck cal! A 400+ hp s14 is going to be crazy fast.. you ever have on that fast before?

[Cal]

well good luck cal! A 400+ hp s14 is going to be crazy fast.. you ever have on that fast before?

Thanks, and no I have never driven a boosted car, that's why I plan to use the stock turbo awhile before switching to the high hp one so I can learn how to drive with power.

[ej25ti]

Thanks, and no I have never driven a boosted car, that's why I plan to use the stock turbo awhile before switching to the high hp one so I can learn how to drive with power.

beware: once you cross over... you'll never go back!

[modifiedMR]

beware: once you cross over... you'll never go back!

this is why I might keep my mr2. At the point where big power is almost at my finger tips! The 20g may only hit 350 or so on pump, but I can tune for it and e85 where people have done 440 whp. A turbo swap after that and 500+ whp it is.

[naomi]

does anyone have any news on the release date of the fr-s? is it even confirmed? lol

There is no confirmed date as such for now, but is known to be released in 2012 probably after the release of Scion IQ.

[hiplainsdrftr]

Well, I recently drove some different sports cars around some mountain roads. It really shed some light on things I don't get to experience by simply driving around my 240s.

Most had traction control and special braking systems and the systems are transparent most of the time. These were real sports cars though, so the systems had street, sport and defeatable settings. Only once did I trigger the traction control system in one and it seemed to adjust the break and throttle ever so slightly. I blame it on the semi auto tranny, weight distribution, and road conditions at the time.

Anyway, If active safety systems are designed around a sports car performance mentality and gripping the road is the goal, then they are not terrible things to have on a car. Additionally, if I were to just be commuting about, I'd drive with them on, especially in poor road conditions. However, If I'm in the mood to screw around, burn tires or play stunt driver on some paddock, I still think the systems need to be completely defeatable.

It helped me realize all cars are different, even common features are executed differently between manufacturers. I won't know if I like the FR-S until I test drive it. I will hope for an off button for computer controlled features like traction and stability control. And, as of very recently, in light of new information and experience I might even test drive a paddle shifting semi-auto, if they make a good one.

So, getting slightly off topic (btw - nice plans for your s14 Cal) does anyone have any information on the possible transmissions and when I get to test drive my new car?

[Cal]

I agree that those features probably are great for DD and all but would be a nice thing to be able to turn off. A lot of the higher up cars, Ferrari, GTR etc. give you the options to do that. It would be nice for that tech to work its way down to the cheaper cars.

Oh an thanks hiplainsdrftr