New Toyota FT-86 II Teaser Video ahead of Frankfurt

[FutureHachiOwner16]

2011 Frankfurt Motor Show | TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION GLOBAL WEBSITE

[Susanoo]

it looks like they change the color for Frankfurt

[West]

Toyota has released a new Toyota FT-86 II Concept teaser video. More marketing hype for the highly anticipated FT-86 Concept II, which is set for the Frankfurt Motor Show 2011. Its expected we will also finally see the concept form of the Subaru BRZ at the show. Keep your eyes peeled for September 13th as the show kicks off with press access!

[modifiedMR]

Big deal. Give me specs and a price. Maybe then I'll be hyped or NOT

[Luv4AllCars]

Nah, I'm still excited. I have to give them credit for the video though - that hypes it up a bit for me. Brand New Toyota FT-86 Teaser! - YouTube

[KnightCrawler]

ughh with all the hype and press about the 86er i think toyota is going to charge more than they have mentioned...

[modifiedMR]

ughh with all the hype and press about the 86er i think toyota is going to charge more than they have mentioned...

That's sadly ironic. The AE86 was supposed to be affordable. I'd love to see a crazy bare bones model with all performance they can muster. I mean 280 hp/ 250 tq (2.0 or 2.5) and no power anything at 2600 lbs for less than 28k. I'd sell a testy if I had to.

Make the "muscle" heads roll! I mean serious performance, lsd, etc.

[Shevon]

If Honda can come up with the 2012 Honda Civic Type R Mugen 2.2 pushing out 256hp whats so hard to make this baby with at least 240 thats a sound number right there. not too much to push the price up and not too low not to stay competitive. the cars that most will compare the 86 to wheather FF,FR or AWD in a simular or close price/weight/power range will have at least that much or close to.
Examples-Next gen golf...i can see vw bumping that to 220hp soon, Mitsu lancer ralliart...pretty sure its around 240, genisis coupe its getting an upgrade next year...prolly around 240. next miata 220 ish, Si 220. i mean really all this makes sense does it not? just my humble thoughts though.

[ej25ti]

cuz hondas use such crazy compression theyre motors are about to explode haha, which makes em bad for boost though

[modifiedMR]

cuz hondas use such crazy compression theyre motors are about to explode haha, which makes em bad for boost though

True, but the ft86 is subie derived. Where the HELL is the turbo? With the dual injection, they can still run 9.5:1 compression and 10 psi. Would be great off boost and better on. 250 hp easy. It's a no brainer for me. Make a performance model for subaru with that power and no options. It will sell. Would it take sales from the STi? Maybe some, but you'd have 2 reasons for enthusiasts to come to your showroom and either way, you'd be better off with having 2 options, especially since one is rwd and smaller while the other is AWD and a 4 door. Prices would be cheaper for the ft86 as it's more raw and smaller.

Just priced a Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-spec. $25,385 delivered.
210 hp, 223 tq,6 speed manual with lsd, brembo brakes and an ipod connection.

I am not a fan of the car, but the specs are good and the reliability should be descent if not good (the 4b11 is the "world engine" and in the evo and srt4). I would buy a ft86 with 240 hp and 210 tq with lsd, wrx brakes and base wrx features for 28k out the door, no question. I will not buy a 200 hp, 160 tq(or worse 150 tq) with lsd and brembo's for 25k. Why? I want some go! Needs more than 210 hp and 180 tq period. Keep it under $28,000, allow us to choose options or none and keep the price down!

It's going to be hard to sell a sports car right now with 200 hp and 150 tq for 25,000. I don't care what else is in it or if it makes 28 mpg city and 35 mpg highway. It's a sports car. If I wanted mpg, I'd buy a prius. Hell, the Genesis coupe makes something like 26 mpg average and that's fine with me.

[MrVito]

at 50 seconds into the video you can see that they were running wheel spacers, and the tires up front didn't seem very wide. On the plus side, if those wheels are the same width and offset, we should be able to run a spacer to flush it out a bit, or, with the right offset and width, squeeze an extra inch or two of wheel width into the stock wells. Though I'd expect to have to roll the fenders a bit.

[ej25ti]

True, but the ft86 is subie derived.

yea i was just respondin to that other kids post, i agree though

[ej25ti]

at 50 seconds into the video you can see that they were running wheel spacers, and the tires up front didn't seem very wide. On the plus side, if those wheels are the same width and offset, we should be able to run a spacer to flush it out a bit, or, with the right offset and width, squeeze an extra inch or two of wheel width into the stock wells. Though I'd expect to have to roll the fenders a bit.

good catch, didnt notice that before

[Cal]

True, but the ft86 is subie derived. Where the HELL is the turbo? With the dual injection, they can still run 9.5:1 compression and 10 psi. Would be great off boost and better on. 250 hp easy. It's a no brainer for me. Make a performance model for subaru with that power and no options. It will sell. Would it take sales from the STi? Maybe some, but you'd have 2 reasons for enthusiasts to come to your showroom and either way, you'd be better off with having 2 options, especially since one is rwd and smaller while the other is AWD and a 4 door. Prices would be cheaper for the ft86 as it's more raw and smaller.

Just priced a Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-spec. $25,385 delivered.
210 hp, 223 tq,6 speed manual with lsd, brembo brakes and an ipod connection.

I am not a fan of the car, but the specs are good and the reliability should be descent if not good (the 4b11 is the "world engine" and in the evo and srt4). I would buy a ft86 with 240 hp and 210 tq with lsd, wrx brakes and base wrx features for 28k out the door, no question. I will not buy a 200 hp, 160 tq(or worse 150 tq) with lsd and brembo's for 25k. Why? I want some go! Needs more than 210 hp and 180 tq period. Keep it under $28,000, allow us to choose options or none and keep the price down!

It's going to be hard to sell a sports car right now with 200 hp and 150 tq for 25,000. I don't care what else is in it or if it makes 28 mpg city and 35 mpg highway. It's a sports car. If I wanted mpg, I'd buy a prius. Hell, the Genesis coupe makes something like 26 mpg average and that's fine with me.

This post deserves a beer.

[KnightCrawler]

This post deserves a beer.

I agree.
It would be nice to see a few WRX parts integrated in the braking system, but another great option would bethe great sounding exhaust the Subi has- Blruupppp pshhh Blruuppp

[Run]

looks like the same exact feature of the previous ft-86 concept II. -.-