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    Exclamation OFFICIAL SPECS revealed (leaked)! 200hp / 150tq!

    Official Specs Posted:

    http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2096

    200hp, 150tq, 2600 pounds !!


    Power/weight:

    HP: 147kw (200ps) / 200hp @7000rpm
    Torque: 205nm (151 lb/ft) @ 6600rpm
    Weight:
    2662 ponds (1210kg) for base manual (~ 2580 lbs dry weight)
    2706 pounds for higher trim manual

    Columns:
    First 2 column are for "small FR sport", column 1 is a higher spec model, column 2 is a lower spec model. 3rd column is Mx5/Miata, 4th is RX8 and last is CRZ. It's a comparison chart.

    Top Section:
    The top section is the dimension in mm, length width height wheelbase, ground clearance then number of seats. Next is weight.
    Top spec manual is 1230kg, auto is 1250kg.
    Low spec manual is 1210kg, auto is 1230kg.
    Then its turning radius.
    High spec rides on 17" wheels and low spec on 16.

    Second Section:
    This section is engine. Boxer 4 DOHC, 1998cc. Output as listed on 1st post above. Drinks premium unleaded and 50L fuel tank.

    Fuel consumption base model:
    13 km/l
    30.58 mpg
    49.21 kmg

    Fuel consumption top model:
    12.4 km/l
    29.17 mpg
    46.94 kmg

    Third Section:
    This section is front engine/rear drive, transmission type, suspension type, brake then tyre size.

    High spec brakes: ventilated discs front and rear.
    Low spec brakes: ventilated front, non ventilated rear.

    Last Section:
    Last section is equipment which is not that easy to understand. First thing I notice is top spec has LSD for manual and auto while low spec only has LSD on manual. I'll post more if I can read more.


    More update:

    Both spec have VSC, front passenger and front and rear curtain bags. Top spec has front LED, leather steering wheel, 6 speakers audio (low spec has 2 speakers), white rev counter with shift light and sport pedals. Top spec also has "smart entry and start".


    MORE THINGS OF NOTE:

    Strut front, double wishbone rear suspension
    Base halogens, optional HIDs on base trim, standard HIDs on high trim
    LSD on all MT cars
    Stability control standard
    Only 2 speaker audio on base car

    High Spec:
    Has "high-quality fabric" (上級ファブリック).
    Option for leather heated seats with Alcantara inserts.
    Steel door sill insert / scuff plate (ステンレス製ドアスカッフプレート)
    Interior metallic door handle inserts
    Carbon fiber center console trim
    Door courtesy light
    Knee pad on console

    The "Customize Grade" at the bottom is interesting:
    the "customize grade" bare bones model is 1190 kg !!
    Unpainted bumper
    16 steelies (says ornament-included, guessing it includes the logo)
    plastic steering wheel
    NO A/C (only a heater)
    Power door locks
    Sunvisor (no vanity mirror)
    No speakers

    the car in fact does require premium unleaded gas (無鉛プレミアム)
    the rear seat is one piece and is foldable (一体可動式)
    did anyone mention that the high spec model comes with a digital speedo and tachometer? (デジタルスピードメーター revメーター)



    Here are translated charts (by our members Spaceywilly and dimension6!!)









    My guess is this has to be a Toyota-Subaru leak. All these recent reveals all conveniently have only 1 or 2 pages of scans. A regular person would have taken tons of pics of all the pages. But I'll take the info even if it's leaked by Toyota/Subaru
    Last edited by Conando; 10-31-2011 at 05:40 PM.

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    DC5 type specs...Now priced 23k - 26k max im sold.

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    Yeah hipster here, this has been up for 12 hours i saw this before :P jk

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    Where's the thumbs up button?? Sweet!

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    Wow, I stand corrected. It is light as shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    note the diffs between this and C&D's BRZ test
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    hey look, donut option for wheels!

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    The torque reaches 150 ft-lbs at a pretty high rpm, I wonder if its got a nice flat torque curve, or if its climbing up as the rpms reach the limit.

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    I'm thrilled with the specs on this thing. This IS what we wanted from the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exitspeed View Post
    I'm thrilled with the specs on this thing. This IS what we wanted from the beginning.
    well and a turbo option :P
    and this goes only for specs not looks lol

    also, the length increased 5 inches... =/
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    I fucking love this thing inside and out. This is EXACTLY what I've wanted from Nissan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ej25ti View Post
    note the diffs between this and C&D's BRZ test
    I'm telling you, they said stuff like that so when the final production model actually comes out, we'd all say wow look at the difference!

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    Hopefully the handling of the car makes up for the low power spec.

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    I compiled the spec data on the FT-86 into all car wiki to make it easy to read:

    Toyota FT-86 (2012) Specifications - All Car Wiki - Car Specification Wiki

    If you guys know any more info or the info is wrong please change it, cheers.

    Ive also compiled all the scans and a few of the images I've found along the way, there's about 12 scanned pages in total near as I can tell


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    Quote Originally Posted by Exitspeed View Post
    This is EXACTLY what I've wanted from Nissan.
    I hear you there buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    For the Canucks here, the low spec fuel consumption works out to 7.7L/100km, and 8.1L/100km for high spec. I assume this is a combined city/hwy rating, and considering it is in the sports car class, not too shabby, even if it does take premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 View Post
    I'm telling you, they said stuff like that so when the final production model actually comes out, we'd all say wow look at the difference!
    Yeah, but what is creating the difference between the FR-S and BRZ in the engine? +10 hp and +20 tq doesn't sound like a turbo, at least, not one usually found on Subies. ECM tweaking? Then guys will be trolling junkers for write-offs to scavenge the BRZ's computer for their FR-S, at least initially.

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    We are so screwed. I just saw this on FT86 club.
    Scion FR-S Forum / Subaru BRZ Forum / Toyota FT-86 Forum and Blog — FT86club.com*2012 2013 Scion FR-S Subaru BRZ Toyota FT-86 Wallpaper, Photo, Video, News, Blog and Forum
    The compression ratio is 12.5:1. If that is true, turbo option is off because you are going to blow the motor if you add any meaningful boost. I am guessing we will see FB25 turbo in WRX.
    Last edited by silentheart; 11-04-2011 at 02:44 PM.

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    I've been saying this for a long time. To achieve high power in a NA 4 cylinder you need 1 or both of these two things. 1) high rev's or 2)high compression. To make 200 hp at a 7600 redline, you need high compression. A 2zz went past 8k and make 180 hp and the s2000's 2.0 went to 9k. The ap2 s2000 with a 2.2 went to 8600 rpm (IIRC).

    This is why, if you want this car to make power, it has to have a turbo model. Doesn't matter as much about stock power, but the engines ability to take boost.
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    the "customize grade" at the bottom is interesting:

    The "customize grade" bare bones model is 1190 kg !!
    Unpainted bumper
    16 steelies (says ornament-included, guessing it includes the logo)
    plastic steering wheel
    no a/c (only a heater)
    power door locks
    sunvisor (no vanity mirror)
    no speakers
    mine please!!!

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    just realized it's the exact same length as a 370
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    OK, ladies and gentlemen,
    Since the engine spec is out. We now have some idea of what output is going to be. I like to get some idea on how we can tweak this little pussy. Any idea or suggestion on.
    1) WITHOUT void warranty, what we can do to to add 10 or 20 more ft-lb torque? May be extra 10 HP? Cold air intake? Air scoop?
    Forget warranty,
    2) Easier mod, bigger exhaust pipes? After market catalytic converter?
    3) Cost for a lower boost turbo kit?
    4) What will you do to go all out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentheart View Post
    OK, ladies and gentlemen,
    Since the engine spec is out. We now have some idea of what output is going to be. I like to get some idea on how we can tweak this little pussy. Any idea or suggestion on.
    1) WITHOUT void warranty, what we can do to to add 10 or 20 more ft-lb torque? May be extra 10 HP? Cold air intake? Air scoop?
    Forget warranty,
    2) Easier mod, bigger exhaust pipes? After market catalytic converter?
    3) Cost for a lower boost turbo kit?
    4) What will you do to go all out?
    1. I doubt a CAI will void the warranty. I would think CAI, headers exhaust
    2. See above minus headers
    3. With that high ass compression I wouldn't trust a turbo on it unless it was a small ass turbo at like 5psi.
    4. If I could go all out? Hmmmm Forged internals that lower the compression to 9:1, upgrade the valvetrain to safely raise the rev limit to 9k. Garret GT28 turbo, HKS 740CC injectors, GReddy FMIC, HKS SSQV III, GReddy pipping. 3 inch exhaust. Piggy back with a dyno tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    Naw, "bang for the buck" as in performance. I'd rather than and need a shot of penicillin.

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    The CAI, exhaust and/or headers would probably throw a cel.

    Only way to make more than 50 whp more on this car (275 hp), would be to drop in lower compression pistons and add a turbo/nitrous/supercharger. Since it's a Subaru, a turbo is a no brainer. Since this car is rwd and the engine is pushed back and down, off the shelf down pipe > exhaust won't work, but a stock fb exhaust manifold might. Opening the engine and putting in lower compression pistons would probably void the warranty, along with a turbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifiedMR View Post
    The CAI, exhaust and/or headers would probably throw a cel.

    Only way to make more than 50 whp more on this car (275 hp), would be to drop in lower compression pistons and add a turbo/nitrous/supercharger. Since it's a Subaru, a turbo is a no brainer. Since this car is rwd and the engine is pushed back and down, off the shelf down pipe > exhaust won't work, but a stock fb exhaust manifold might. Opening the engine and putting in lower compression pistons would probably void the warranty, along with a turbo.
    pretty sure that would void the warranty lol :P

    and an exhaust and headers will delete too much back pressure and youll most likely lose power
    first hand experience on my IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by ej25ti View Post
    pretty sure that would void the warranty lol :P

    and an exhaust and headers will delete too much back pressure and youll most likely lose power
    first hand experience on my IS
    Yes and no. If it is too open, then yes, but a properly designed 4-2-1 mainfold and exhaust, should make power. Problem is, as you have noticed, stock manifolds and exhaust are much less restrictive now, so gains are small or non-existent. S2000's, 2zz celica's, 370z's are mostly like this. It takes a super expensive, properly engineered exhaust to make 5-10 whp. It's that OEM's have learned to "tune" the exhaust to the engine and most gains are not legal. The real only gain, IMO, is the drop in weight, stockers are still pretty heavy.
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    Are we talking strictly 50 state legal parts? Because if we are your right 10whp we be about what you get but if we are saying screw smog then the right intake headers exhaust setup with a tune has a lot of potential. I really don't believe a turbo is the only way to see real power. You have so many other options first for ex cams, intake manifold, porting polishing, valves, springs and retainers, lighter internals people have made power for years without turbos, and you do most of this and it will also take off weight instead of adding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoolin View Post
    Are we talking strictly 50 state legal parts? Because if we are your right 10whp we be about what you get but if we are saying screw smog then the right intake headers exhaust setup with a tune has a lot of potential. I really don't believe a turbo is the only way to see real power. You have so many other options first for ex cams, intake manifold, porting polishing, valves, springs and retainers, lighter internals people have made power for years without turbos, and you do most of this and it will also take off weight instead of adding it.
    10whp is harder than ya'd think
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    I've been in this game awhile as long as the motor has the potential and it's as tunable as they say 10whp might not be as hard as you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoolin View Post
    I've been in this game awhile as long as the motor has the potential and it's as tunable as they say 10whp might not be as hard as you think
    well tuning means a few diff things
    are u speaking like a basic chip
    or like reflashes or ?
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